Ramsay, Malcolm - Lot 16 &17
| Birth Name | Ramsay, Malcolm - Lot 16 &17 |
| Gender | male |
| Age at Death | about 84 years |
Notes
Note
Malcolm was not in the Scotland births database on familysearch, or in the old parish records on the Scotland's People database, but there are gaps in the coverage of the parish where John and Margaret lived.
According to Westcountrymen in Prince Edward's Isle, Malcolm and Michael Ramsay settled near Low Point around 1775.
As a member of the legislature, it is likely that he was the Mal. Ramsay Esq. in Lot 16 for the 1798 census, with 3 males and 4 females under 16, and an older man and woman. (fits with children Donald, John, Archibald; Jennie, Helen, Margaret, Mary)
According to the History of Belmont, PEI: "In 1809, Malcome (1757-1841) received a 100 yr. lease to 115 acres of land, at the end of Shemody Creek. He was married to Mary Murphy (1759—1839). He was agent for Governor Patterson and was a member of the House of Assembly. He was nicknamed Moccasin Ramsay because he wore moccasins when he went to Charlottetown to attend the sessions."
He later lived in Lot 17. There is a conveyance of 100 acres of land in Lot 17 to Malcolm Ramsay dated July 1801. In 1839, Malcolm Ramsay signed a conveyance for 106 acres in Lot 17 to Charles Ramsay, possibly his son. (This might be why Charles was not named in Malcolm's will.)
The will of Malcolm Ramsay Lot 17, signed 1837 but never put through probate: 46 acre farm to his son Archibald. Will also names wife Mary, children Jannet, Nelly, Mary, Margaret, James and John. (See Early PEI probate, by Linda Jean Nicholson)
The family tree on the Island Register, as well as the histories of Hamilton, Lot 18 and Elmsdale, Lot 4 says 17 children, with 8 names lost. The known names were Jennie, Nellie, John, Donald, Mary, Margaret, Archibald, Charles and James. The booklet put together by Thomas Ramsay in the 1920s says:
Jane or Janet, called Jennie, married Matthew Stewart
Ellen or Helen, called Nellie, married George Ellison
John married Coy McKay
Donald married Betsy Green
Mary, married William Hutchinson
Margaret married George Montgomery and later, George Murray
Archibald married Helen Stewart
Charles married Miss Hunter [Margaret]
James married Ann Maxfield
What about missing children, how likely is that? Mary might have expected to have had children about ever 2 years, from 1782-1807. There were no missing children in the 1798 census, which accounts for the children born about every 2 years from 1782-1796, and then Charles and James, born when Mary was in her early forties. I can't see that she had the space to have had another 8 - any children born before 1798 did not survive to be counted in that census. The William Ramsay who had a daughter baptized in Bedeque in 1821 might fit with Malcolm and Mary, and the Ann Ramsay who married Thomas Boyle in 1835. Malcolm Ramsay - there were a couple - was a witness at her mariage.
On the whole, Malcolm's family has been fairly well documented.
DNA link to a descendant
Events
| Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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| Birth | about 1757 | Ugadale Beg, Argylshire, Scotland | ||
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| Death | 1841 | Lot 17, Prince County, Prince Edward Island, Canada | dates from gravestone | |
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Parents
| Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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| Father | Ramsay, John | before 1728 | about 1798 | |
| Mother | Taylor, Margaret | before 1798 | ||
| Brother | Ramsay, Donald - Lot 13 | about 1748 | April 1798 | |
| Brother | Ramsay, John “The Yankee” | about 1750 | about 1806 | |
| Brother | Ramsay, Neil Neill - Lot 18 | about 1751 | before April 1812 | |
| Brother | Ramsay, Archibald - Lot 18 | about 1755 | March 17, 1839 | |
| Ramsay, Malcolm - Lot 16 &17 | about 1757 | 1841 | ||
| Sister | Ramsay, Janet | about 1760 | before 1766 | |
| Brother | Ramsay, Angus | 1764 | ||
| Sister | Ramsay, Jenat Janet | 1766 |
Families
Family of Ramsay, Malcolm - Lot 16 &17 and Murphy, Margaret Mary |
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| Married | Wife | Murphy, Margaret Mary ( * about 1761 + September 22, 1839 ) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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| Ramsay, Janet Jennie | about 1782 | |
| Ramsay, Helen Nellie | about 1784 | June 5, 1875 |
| Ramsay, John Sr. | 1789 | April 14, 1873 |
| Ramsay, Donald | about 1790 | before 1826 |
| Ramsay, Margaret | about 1792 | March 11, 1875 |
| Ramsay, Mary | about 1794 | December 3, 1862 |
| Ramsay, Archibald - Lot 4 | about 1796 | October 26, 1886 |
| Ramsay, William | about 1801 | |
| Ramsay, Charles S. | January 4, 1804 | September 30, 1889 |
| Ramsay, James | March 6, 1806 | April 8, 1894 |